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Starting plants from seed |
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Choices...
Every gardener has his or her own preferred method of seed-starting. A lot
depends on your favorite things to grow from seed: if you like lettuce, you'll
mostly direct-sow in the garden; if tomatoes are your thing, chances are you
start indoors in potting soil with bottom heat; and if you prefer finnicky
alpines, you may engage in scatter-sowing across a grit-covered pot.
As much seed-starting as I do, I've tried most methods by now. I've hit
on a favorite one that works for most varieties, but at the same time I've
come to realize that different types of plants and seeds require different
approaches. On this page, I'll try to sort through my rationale for deciding
what method to use with which varieties. First, a summary of the methods I
routinely use:
- the baggy method, with all its variations
- sowing to a cellpack - with and without bottom heat
- sowing to a pot - inside, outside, or combinations thereof
- direct-sowing in the garden
When I first started on my germination adventures, I went about it in a
fairly traditional way: cellpacks filled with a seed-starting soil mix, a few seeds
to each cell, each cellpack under the growlights. And that worked out okay.
Sure, some varieties never germinated, so that their cellpacks sat uselessly
under the lights, while others germinated like gangbusters, with multiple
seedlings per cell. I usually didn't have the heart to snip extras, leading to
delicate transplant attempts, but I had plenty of room and plenty of time - after
all, I was starting just a few dozen varieties.
Then I started to get more and more hooked, and obtained hundreds of varieties
from catalog orders, trades, and society exchanges. Now both space and time
became more precious, and I adjusted my methods accordingly. Mostly, I gravitated
toward my own version of the baggy method (also known as the filter paper method,
or the Deno method). I describe the ins and outs of this method on
its own page, but in short, it involves germinating seeds outside of soil,
and transplanting them to containers to grow on after they germinate. Here are
some of the advantages I see to this approach:
- Seed varieties don't consume any cellpacks, soil, or space under the lights
until they actually germinate. If they never germinate, they just get thrown out
- It's much easier to subject the seeds to the cold and warm stratification
treatments they need for germinating. Early on, I'd put entire cellpacks in
plastic bags and set them in the fridge for their cold treatment. Three kids
later, the fridge has no room for such frills, but all my baggies fit in a single
tupperware container.
- If you like to keep records and statistics of germination rates and yields,
the baggy method can't be beat. You can see germination occur at its first stage,
when a single small root emerges from the seed, and can keep records of how
many seeds germinate, and how long it takes, in as much detail as you like. That's
where I get the detailed information I present on my plant portrait pages.
- Some varieties just germinate better given the baggy conditions. I don't
claim to know why, but this has been my experience for several species.
- Finally, some esoteric germination enhancement methods, such as treatment
with Gibberellic acid, are ideally suited to the baggy method, which provides about
as controlled of an environment as is possible.
Of course, there are disadvantages as well:
- It's more work, in many cases. After the seeds germinate, you have to
carefully transplant them to cellpacks or pots. If you'd have sown directly to
soil, you could have saved yourself a step.
- You have to stay on the ball - most varieties have a limited length of time
after germination before they start really resenting growing in a baggy. Checking
the baggies for germination every three or four days is a must.
- Even so, some varieties just don't like the experience, period. For example,
I've found that various penstemon species are much more prone to damping off
or otherwise failing if they germinated in a baggy, instead of directly in
soil.
- Those really tiny seeds! Transplanting them after they germinate requires
keen eyesight and a surgeon's steady hand, and many are easily damaged in the
process.
- Those really large seeds! They tend to make poor contact with the filter
medium in the baggy, leading to delayed germination or root stress after
germination. Anything bigger than a pea tends to be problematic. Even so,
a baggy may still work - just use milled peat moss or potting soil instead of
the filter.
- Giving more than one warm-cold cycle gets to be tedious in baggies. And
providing the fluctuating temperatures that some seeds need to
germinate (examples: Bells of Ireland, cleome) is nigh impossible in the
baggy environment. In both situations, Mother Nature does it better
So from a good number of years' experience, I've come up with a few heuristics
for germination method selection:
- Seeds for species that are new to me, especially perennials with
uncertain germination requirements, I almost always start in baggies.
That way, I have complete control, and can keep the most accurate records,
which will help me decide how to proceed in future years.
- An exception to that is when I know (from germination databases, internet
search, or trading partner advice) that the seed needs an extended cold stage,
perhaps more than one cold stage, or fluctuating temperatures. In those cases,
I tend to sow directly to a 3½ inch pot, which I bottom-water thoroughly,
and cover with grit to help keep moisture in and algae/moss out. If my sources
suggest that an initial warm stage is helpful, I keep the pot inside for the
suggested amount of time, otherwise, out it goes, for a winter's worth of
natural conditioning. Come spring, I check the pots regularly, make note of any
germination, and plant seedlings out when they're large enough to handle. Some
pots stay in my outside germination area for several years before I give up on
them.
- Tiny seeds that are painfully difficult to handle, I usually sow directly
to the top of a 3½ inch pot with potting soil, water in thoroughly, and
set under my growlights for germination. Seeds that dislike baggy germination
or that seem to do better direct-sown (penstemon, hosta) also get sown directly
to pots. Since these tend to have unpredictable germination success rates, I
prefer pots over cellpacks. If after a while a pot gets too crowded, I'll
transplant to cellpacks or individual small pots.
- For annuals and vegetables that germinate easily and in great numbers, I
often bypass the baggy hassle and resort to the ol' stick 'm in six-pack method.
I double up on the seed, use exactly as many cells as the number of plants I
want, and ruthlessly lop extras. It's quicker, and many of the baggy method's
advantages don't really apply.
- Finally, there's sowing in situ outside. I use this for plants whose
seedlings really dislike any kind of handling (poppies, mainly), and some other
perennial and biennial plants known for self-sowing (e.g., foxgloves). There's
a lot more room outside, so you can get a larger crop of plants; they'll stay
small their first year (no head-start on the season), but if they're not going
to flower anyway (most perennials and biennials won't), then it doesn't really
matter.
Luckily, deciding what to feed my seedlings is infinitely easier than
figuring out what to feed the kids! The seedlings are not nearly as picky.
As a matter of fact, I don't really feed them anything as long as they are
in small cellpacks, and they do just fine. When they get a little bigger,
and get transplanted to their own pots or deep six-packs, I water them in
with some dilute fertilizer, and from then on they get a regular diet of
weak nutrient soup. Until last year, I used Neptune's Harvest and was happy with it - but
no matter how much they try to tell you this stuff has no smell, they are
lying! It stinks! So when my wife needed to store food items in the same
half of the basement, the situation became untenable, and I switched to
small doses of all-purpose chemical fertilizer. If you do use fish
fertilizer (it's supposed to have nutrients and stimulants that synthetic
fertilizers can't provide) just remember to water in such a way that any
liquid is rapidly absorbed into the potting soil (either by bottom-watering
or top-watering), and the smell doesn't linger. Do not, however, make up a
batch of the diluted stuff and let it sit around: the stench has a way of
permeating things. I didn't really mind it - it just went along with one of
my favorite activities. Whichever fertilizer you use, be sure to dilute it
down to 1/4 or 1/2 the recommended strength.
Most people underestimate how long seed stays viable. Certainly, the best-by date
varies with the plant species, and some won't even last a few months in dry
storage. But most keep for much, much longer (for example,
big bluestem grass). Some, like peppers and tomatoes,
slowly lose viability, so that you need to plant more for a good crop. Others
seem to just never give up. In the seed-starting details (see below), I try to
indicate the age and origin of the seed, so that you can judge whether they
deteriorate with time.
Most seeds remain viable longest when stored cold. I have more seeds
than would fit in the family fridge, so I keep them in a box in our basement, where the temperature
fluctuates from about 60°F in winter to about 68°F in summer. This
seems to be fine for most seeds. I make an exception for a few notoriously
short-viable seeds, which I stick in a corner of the fridge (in the same
tupperware container as my cold-stratifying baggies).
When you buy seed from commercial sources, you can pretty much be sure that the
little things inside are indeed seed (you can't always be sure they are viable,
especially if they've been sitting around in a department store for months). But
when you trade for seed, you can't always be sure. I've gotten many packets full
of fluffy chaff through the years.
Especially prone to seedlessness are trades of hosta, gerbera, clematis,
pulsatilla and ligularia. For all of these, the seeds should be fat and solid
- they are easy to distinguish from chaff, which is just fluffy stuff, sometimes
with flat empty husks. If you can push down on seed without feeling resistance,
it's probably not viable. Smaller seed is harder to judge - sowing thickly is
sometimes the only way to make sure that you're sowing some seed along with the
chaff.
All of these are just my personal observations. Please
let me know if your experience is different.
You may also be interested in my list
of perennials that bloom in their first year from seed.
Visitors to this page have left the following comments| Ray | Jul 15, 2005 | Hi Rob
What a very interesting website.Only just discovered it but shall return many times I'm sure. Don't know how you find the time though with all that garden to do and seed sowing and experimentin an all. Well done mate from a UK addicted gardener. |
| Jeanie Wright. | Jul 30, 2005 | Hi Rob, thanks for your information. I am interested in growing Japanese Windflower from seed and have found little information or incouragement so far. I guess I will have to email you. |
| Chris | Oct 21, 2005 | I recieved some seeds, I think, from a friend. They are from a butterfly bush. Can you tell me what they look like? pics would be helpful. Thank You. |
| Dawn H. | Oct 31, 2005 | I enjoyed your site! Preparing my final presentation for my Master Gardener class and looking for sources (Since I have been starting seeds about as long as you, mainly looking for 'sources' for the bibliography of stuff I already know-this isnt rocket science) I have never heard of the 'baggy' method but I am going to try it this year! |
| Ashley Whitmer | Nov 03, 2005 | Hi Rob I wanted you to know your web site helped me with my science project
Ps I love your flower pictures. |
| Ronda | Nov 04, 2005 | Wonderful site- great info
ps love Max's garden-cute |
| Bev | Dec 05, 2005 | Greetings from Australia. Great site, interesting info and lovely photos. I have to remember to switch seasons though being 'down under'. Wish there were more Australian gardeners / horticulturalists willing to share their knowledge. Congratulations and keep up the good work. |
| Susan J. | Dec 05, 2005 | Hey, Rob - great site and great information. I added a few comments on butterfly/moth gardening. It seems more interest has been buoyed in the past couple of years. As to the price of T&M seeds, you HAVE to try valueseeds.com (a T&M sub) where they sell for 49-99 cents! |
| Keith | Dec 15, 2005 | Hi Rob, interesting site and loved the comments on your guestbook. I have to agree with Susan about www.valueseeds.com Its an awesome website with real value prices and shipping only 99c. The prices are great for beginners or if you just want to experiment with something different. |
| peggy | Jan 15, 2006 | This is the most facinating page I've read. I am in the process of building a greenhouse and welcome any knowledge. I would love to read more about bottom watering.
thank you
Peggy |
| alan sherry | Feb 14, 2006 | would you tell me the best way to start hosta seed I start them in pots at room temperature. Only the ones with fat parts at the end of the flimsy black bits are real seeds. |
| judie | Feb 25, 2006 | I have not be able to get the clematis to do anything for me. I guess i'm missing the secret. but I have hundreds of seeds, none of which Have done a thing in the past attempts. I just keep collecting them. maybe some one else out there has been having a hard time and finally got it.....any help would be appreciated....judie |
| Jocelyn Mallory | Mar 14, 2006 | When you germinate at 70' are you doing so under a controlled heat source such as a heat mat or lights, or are you just leaving the baggie in the house pretty much at room temperature?
Thanks,
your website is exceedingly helpful. When I say 70F, it means the temperature of my basement (actually, for seeds started in December/January, I report 65F, which is closer to the truth in those months). 75F means on top of a grow-lamp (may actually be closer to 80F). |
| Víctor Azofeifa | Jul 15, 2006 | Hi nice web site, I`m a home gardener here in Costa Rica, I love the Hollyhocks, they are very common in my town. I want to be a real seed saver, is just my hobby. Very interesting to know how many time i can keep my seeds. |
| Sandy McCullough | Aug 08, 2006 | Can Cannas be started from seed? Yes, they can. I haven't done so personally, though - it's so much easier to divide them. |
| D. P. Singh | Sep 06, 2006 | I just got my first house, now planning to grow wonderful flowers & plants to bring prosperity in our life. |
| Jim D. | Nov 01, 2006 | I'm a newby at gardening, I have a HUGE yard, and I will MOST definitely take advantage of your wonderful sight! |
| Ben | Nov 04, 2006 | I would appreciate it very much if someone could tell me where I can buy seed of:
variegatum or yellow archangel
aegopodium podagraria or goutweed
aronia melanocarpa or chokeberry
waldsteinia fragarioides or barrenstrawberry
All of these plants are perennials and very good for shady places.
Many many thanks,
Ben
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| Lavinia | Feb 11, 2007 | I'm really into the challenge of starting exotic and unusual plants from seeds. If you happen to have any information on how to start durian from seed, i'd love to know. Thank you and I'll check back soon on your site for updates. I really enjoy your insights on this matter. I like to grow all kinds of plants, but my experience with tropical fruits and vegetables is very limited - I've not yet tried durian. Good luck! |
| Sara | Mar 12, 2007 | I am 2 years into the seed-starting addiction and have been fairly successful. I am using growlights over peat pots. I understand that some seeds need to germinate in the dark and some in the light -- where can I find out the requirements for each type of seed? Tom Clothier's database is a good place to start. I try to provide the information as well, for species I've grown from seed - try the links above. |
| Annie | Mar 22, 2007 | This is great! I have started a bunch of different veggie seeds on paper towels and this site is providing some great info on what I've done wrong ;) so I'll be able to start over again, like, before next year (nice change of pace!) I appreciate your sharing all this info with us neophytes! |
| lisa | May 15, 2007 | great facts and stuff but you could include just that little more on what seeds germate quickest |
| adk | May 24, 2007 | i think that was great and but you couldve put showed the picture of how it started germinating. |
| liz | Jul 25, 2007 | When I start seed indoors I use the peat pots; they germinate fine but they get tall and spindly with only the "seed leaves" on top and flop over. What am I doing wrong? Probably not enough light - they need bright light in a sunny window, or a fluorescent light source no more than a few inches away from the plants. |
| Renate Mellinger | Jul 27, 2007 | To Carole Johnson in Albany, Oregon...I may have what you are looking for. I have seeds of ellow/red gaillardia, but they are not trumpets. They are large daisy-like flowers. Is that what you want?
Renate Mellinger, Salem, Oregon |
| carmen | Oct 28, 2007 | su página me gusta mucho. me gustaría comprar alguna de sus plantas y semillas pero vivo en un sitio muy pequeño en españa y creo que no llegarían nunca aquí.
gracias |
| Rob CharlierAnglim | Nov 15, 2007 | Why are some annuals easily started from seed, but some should be directly seeded outdoors rather than started indoors? I am confused... any information about this topic would be greatly appreciated. Love your web layout. I also teach web page construction during the school year. It all depends on what conditions are necessary for germination to occur, and how well the plants respond to transplanting. Those that require fluctuating temperatures, or that resent transplanting, are better sown directly where they are to grow. Examples are cleome, poppies, bells of ireland, and larkspur. |
| gaston1 | Nov 19, 2007 | just looking around seaching for info on horticulture and plants wen i came acrose your site , i'm a novice in this field hoping to get a cours at alguonquin one day, thanks for the info it is allways good to get new tricks for the garden , being disable limite my search each day and i discovered plants again by working at the local canadien tire in the garden center an here i go again start and cant put down my intreset for knowlege of plantes and more . |
| Pam in Ohio | Jan 05, 2008 | I had the greatest looking impatiens last year! They were fairly large plants, very healthy looking with huge leaves. The blooms, however, were few. My impatiens didn't have the same look that those purchased from the local nurseries had. Their plants were full of blooms, unlike mine. I'm starting my seeds in peat pots under grow lights. I pinched back for fuller plants and fertilized with diluted 10-15-10 liquid fertlizer. What should I do differently this year as I start my impatiens seeds to get plants with more blooms? |
| Daniel | Jan 15, 2008 | Fantastic garden where do you find the time? It looks like a minature botanic garden ,hope you have a very successful gardening year, all the best.
Daniel Pretlove
Chelsea physic garden London |
| Teri in Mount Bethel, PA | Jan 23, 2008 | Have you had any experience with winter sowing?? I have put out some seeds in milk containers and other types of containers. I am told that self sowing plants (and others) all just naturally put seed in the ground which overwinters and turns out fine (mother nature knows what to do with them) so that deliberately following this routine should work. Do you agree.
Regards,
Teri I do use wintersowing methods for some seeds. Like all methods, it has advantages and disadvantages. The main advantages are the small level of effort during sowing and germination, and (for some seeds) just the right conditions of fluctuating temperatures or cool spring temperatures that they need to germinate. On the negative side, germination usually occurs in April and May (around here), right around the busiest time of the gardening season - and they don't reach a useful size until late May or June, when hot weather is already on the lurch, making it harder to keep tiny seedlings alive. On balance, I use the method only for hard-to-germinate seeds that really benefit from the natural temperature cycles. |
| terry | Feb 17, 2008 | I've used the baggy method for a long time. Can't remember why except I hated waiting for something to come up soil method and I always lost where I planted. But I'm glad I did. My daughter went in to have her baby, simple enough right, wrong. There were complications and we were at the hospital longer than expected and I had started my baggies of seeds already. I use a little different method in that I place a paper plate on a holder in a gallon baggy with paper towel on it and wet that. In this manner I can stack two or three to a baggy. ( I am short on space) Anyway I placed all the starts in a couple brown paper bags and took they with me. That year I had a traveling garden. My grandchild was fine and the garden went on to be great also. It was a good year. |
| Mark in New Orleans | Feb 18, 2008 | I am doing OK in bag germination , but I am having trouble afterI put them in pots, is there a good proiduct for damping off? Damping off is best controlled by cultural measures: air circulation and only watering, from the bottom, when the soil is dry. Of course you'll never get it perfect (in any tray of seedlings, you'll find that some packs/pots dry out faster than others), but I find my losses to damp-off are quite modest, mostly in species notoriously prone to the fungal disease. Having said that, some seed-starters swear by other (often organic) solutions, such as herbal teas, to control damp-off. If you ask at an online forum, you'll get lots of advice! |
| Carol | Feb 26, 2008 | What an amazing site; I thought I was in heaven! I have a large garden area also filled with perennials, annuals, flowering shrubs and trees. But, I am constantly looking for more or trying some more plants from seed. I know your site will be of geat help to me. Thanks for being here!
Carol |
| Hugh Tornabene, Maryland | Apr 23, 2008 | Starting with Web-store bought Jack in the Pulpit seeds I am, with mistakes, figuring out how to produce plants.
Germinated by placing in the dark between wet layered paper towels, room temperature, is easy and gave about 70% germination. Roots start appearing after maybe 3 weeks.
Then I drowned my first batch, overwatered soggy seed starter mix. So sad.
Second batch, after sprouting, and in sprouted groups, laid on top of wetted Jiffy peat pellets, tucked in a bit, with the root showing but pointed down. Indoors.
Miracle. Root splits and a green shoot appears and turns into a leaf. White root races downwards maybe 2 inches in 10 days. Transferred, complete, to pots with damp (not wet) seed starter in. Looking healthy. Thats all so far. |
| Lynne | Apr 23, 2008 | I started my seed search in January after becoming inspired by your easy instructions for the "baggy method". I now have over 900 perennials and annual flowers that I will be planting this Spring. I tried over 80 different types/varieties of seeds. The only one that I didn't have luck with was some sea oats seed. This is such an interesting and space saving way of starting seeds. Thank you for sharing. Your site is fabulous. |
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